Adobe CS2 Woes

April 8, 2005

Creative SuiteI recently pur­chased the entire Adobe Cre­ative Suite about two months ago, pat­ting myself on the back for invest­ing in soft­ware which helps aide in my cre­ativ­ity. A few weeks later, as prob­a­bly every­one is aware, Adobe announced a new update — avail­able in May — to the Cre­ative Suite, dub­bing it CS2 (or appro­pri­ately Cre­ative Suite 2).

One of the coolest fea­tures included in the update is the Van­ish­ing Point, a tool which allows you to dig­i­tally “clone, brush, and paste ele­ments that auto­mat­i­cally match the per­spec­tive of any image area.” Since I had pur­chased it in Feb­ru­ary I fig­ured I’d qual­ify for the free upgrade which Adobe calls the “Post Announce­ment Upgrade”.

Appar­ently the only peo­ple who qual­ify for the upgrade are those who’ve pur­chased CS 1.3 between April 1st and July 31st, 2005. What con­fuses me is the fact that noone would pur­chase the orig­i­nal CS when they could have the Cre­ative Suite 2 for the same price, so I pro­pose that Adobe revise their free upgrade pol­icy, allow­ing those who’ve pur­chased pre­vi­ous ver­sions of their soft­ware within 90 days before the announce­ment to qual­ify, not the other way around. Accord­ing to one of the sales­peo­ple I spoke with at Adobe their pol­icy can account for a cer­tain amount of time before the announce­ment date, but they aren’t allowed to dis­close that information.

Adobe, I love your soft­ware but your upgrade pol­icy needs some tweaking. 

14 comments

If our father taught us any­thing, it’s fight back when things looked screwed up. If I were you, I would mail em a let­ter, email their tech sup­port, call in their front office recep­tion­ist, try to get the upgrade. I mean, seri­ously, what do you have to lose. You just invested a good chunk of change you coulda used on some­thing else and PIRATED the soft­ware. I did this with some movie tick­ets that I couldnt get refunded for that lousy movie “Cursed”. Two months later I got the tick­ets AND 4 free movie tick­ets for my problems.

Go get em erik. Or give me your info and I’ll get the upgrade. Lol.. Reminds me of the time when you’d send me to get fries/ice cream etc because you were to shy.. Good times.

by Matt (brother) on April 8, 2005 at 11:49 am. Reply #

Adobe has really dis­ap­pointed me ever since CS came out. There were some mas­sive issues(one involv­ing resiz­ing) in CS(1) and these were never patched.

I was not aware of their small time frame that you have men­tioned, but it is start­ing to sound like a trend.

by Mark Michon on April 9, 2005 at 12:16 am. Reply #

I was not aware of their small time frame that you have men­tioned, but it is start­ing to sound like a trend.

A sad trend at that.

At times I’m almost hes­istent to invest in soft­ware, like CS for instance, because it seems that prod­uct updates are just around the cor­ner. I’m not sure this upgrade in par­tic­u­lar war­rants a $4600.00 upgrade tag see­ing as though only a sprin­kling of fea­tures were added to this release.

by kartooner on April 9, 2005 at 4:15 pm. Reply #

Like they say in New York.….“hey, for­get about it”

by dad on April 10, 2005 at 9:12 pm. Reply #

I only update every cou­ple releases or so because I can’t keep up finan­cially with their upgrades usually.

I’d take your brother’s advice — when pressed, com­pa­nies can do the right thing. Apple, for instance, has gone out of their way to cor­rect some major errors with their hardware/software for friends I know. They bitched and Apple made it right for them. Give it a whirl!

by Max on April 11, 2005 at 3:02 pm. Reply #

Max: I tried con­vinc­ing Adobe to see it my way, but they weren’t will­ing to see “eye to eye”. As I men­tioned, their “Post Announce­ment Upgrade” pol­icy is that the indi­vid­ual is only eli­gi­ble for an upgrade if they pur­chased CS1 between April 1st and June 31st, 2005. It just seems absurd that any­one in their right mind would pur­chase the older ver­sion of Cre­ative Suite when the upgrade is available.

If Adobe has a “Post Announce­ment Upgrade” then surely they should con­sider a “Pre-announcement Upgrade” for those who pur­chased an older ver­sion. I think 90 days would be fair enough.

by kartooner on April 12, 2005 at 9:20 am. Reply #

Ha ha, you paid for photoshop…

Man, I hope nobody from Adobe reads your site…

by Scott on April 13, 2005 at 1:51 pm. Reply #

Well this is the way it is, I with a team of Adobe techs they are not Adobe employ­ees but an out­sourced company(No names because of non-disclosure agree­ment) both tech and cus­tomer ser­vice sup­port team is only allowed to repeat what Adobe tells them to say so if you really want to get your prob­lem resolved and actu­ally speak to peo­ple who can fix it just call 206.675.7000(corporate office) and say that you are not get­ting it done call­ing sales sup­port and want to talk to some­body about the upgrade pol­icy because you are think­ing about never buy­ing the S/W again

my 2 cents Zyphon

by BRA on April 14, 2005 at 12:23 am. Reply #

I just had a call from Adobe respond­ing to my let­ter to the ceo com­plain­ing about the upgrade pol­icy (I bought CS 2 months ago as well). The caller didn’t seem to think that I under­stood the pol­icy and explained yet again about the post April 1 thing, so I don’t think I’ll waste any more time on this (it’s like argu­ing with a cat). But the future doesn’t look to good as these boys now more or less have a monop­oly in the graph­ics soft­ware area

by Tony on May 4, 2005 at 4:46 am. Reply #

I also pur­chased CS Pre­mium in early Feb­ru­ary only to dis­cover this major new ver­sion was avail­able less than 90 days after­ward. Adobe has not budged on the upgrade price; I will have to pay another $500 for the priv­i­lege of using this new version.

I’m hon­estly con­sid­er­ing end­ing my 17-year rela­tion­ship with Adobe over this. (The last time I was in this mood was when they killed Type-on-Call sup­port with­out let­ting me know; I nearly lost thou­sands of dol­lar in fonts pur­chases. And did they offer an upgrade path to the Open­Type Library when it was released? Nooo.) I don’t think this upgrade pol­icy is fair treat­ment. Fur­ther­more their response to it has been con­de­scend­ing and unmov­ing. This is not the Adobe I fell in love with. In fact, I’m nearly furious.

The only addi­tional point of lever­age I can think of is to con­tact the Jus­tice depart­ment to file anti-trust com­plaints over the impend­ing merger of Macro­me­dia and Adobe. If they are act­ing this way when they have some mod­icum of com­pe­ti­tion, how will they act when they have the desk­top graph­ics mar­ket sown up? And do you think Microsoft could get away with some­thing like this if they had a sim­i­lar pol­icy for Office upgrades?

by Bill on May 10, 2005 at 10:00 am. Reply #

UPDATE: I received a call from an Adobe rep­re­sen­ta­tive this after­noon. They are going to give me a free upgrade to CS2 after all. Yippee!

by Bill on May 12, 2005 at 3:45 pm. Reply #

Great to hear that Bill. On my end of things, despite numer­ous calls to their Cus­tomer Ser­vice depart­ment, they don’t seem will­ing to budge or see it my way.

I won­der what could be done to per­suade them otherwise.

by kartooner on May 13, 2005 at 1:19 am. Reply #

In my case, I called the cus­tomer ser­vice group/ When I got stonewalled by the front-line rep, I asked to speak with a super­vi­sor. When the super­vi­sor stonewalled, I asked to speak with his super­vi­sor. My name, phone num­ber, and ser­ial num­ber was taken down and I was promised a call­back. It was “Howard” who called me back, apol­o­gized for the ear­lier responses, and took the order for my free upgrade.

If you can’t get the same result, it seems to me a com­plaint regard­ing the anti-trust issue would be the ulti­mate recourse. Adobe CS is the equiv­a­lent of “Microsoft Office” for design pro­fes­sion­als, and I couldn’t imag­ine Microsoft get­ting away with this sort of policy.

by Bill on May 13, 2005 at 5:37 pm. Reply #

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