Comments on: Blatant Rip Off

By: Imitation and flattery [rebelpixel productions]

Imitation and flattery [rebelpixel productions] — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:41:17 +0000

[…] Copycats can be very bad, but sometimes it’s just too much. I recall Erik Sagen’s kartooner and Ethan Marcotte’s Sidesh0w. They just slipped into my brain, and it pisses me off. I’ve copied the code of A List Apart once, be it only for the float. And that wasn’t the way I wanted it, so I made my own. Copying helps you learn, but please, be inspired, not a copier. […]

By: Richard@Home

Richard@Home — Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:12:28 +0000

Hey, it’s not all bad — at least its a positive indication that you’ve ‘made it’. Not everyone get’s their sites ripped

By: kartooner

kartooner — Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:24:01 +0000

Sprons: To implement Gravatar into Wordpress follow this link: Wordpress Gravatar Plugin After enabling the plug-in it's a simple cut and paste of the PHP code and you're all set.

By: sprons

sprons — Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:53:26 +0000

okay, okay, that linking part was’nt the smarstest thing to do.
I would have change that if you were’nt so damn fast, hehe!

Any how, your website has a beautifull WP design and I respect that!
There’s no such thing as stealing someone’s design, style or script.
The next time I will ask for it

I like your avatar plugin, or should I say gravatar!
Can you tell/mail me how you put the gravatar script in your wp-comments.php? <- still thinking your using that one.

Thnx and maybe later!

By: kartooner

kartooner — Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:37:55 +0000

Sprons: I’m not going to waste my time and energy, but I will say this; of course I use methods donated to the CSS community. We all do. It’s the only way we learn, that is we adapt certain methodologies, modify them and ultimately make them our own.

My point in all this has absolutely nothing to do with the underlying CSS code, because to be honest I wouldn’t have flinched if you had copied it.

Rather, you linked directly to the sections within this site as if they were your own. Can I be any more clear than that?

By: Sprons

Sprons — Tue, 05 Oct 2004 11:01:35 +0000

As Sob said “We too have the usual random arse showing up.”

Well, here I am!
While I was surfing on the net I found this website:
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal23.htm

The css and html looks almost the same as yours, Kartooner!

By: kartooner

kartooner — Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:25:08 +0000

Rob: No worries. I myself have a handful of Dutch, Scandinavian (I’m Norwegian, by the way) and Swedish friends. This isn’t at all a discriminatory situation, rather it’s just a question of common sense practice.

I should add that I admired and adapted certain methods when I was younger, but never did I lift specific links or graphics for my own benefit.

We all learn from others and collaboration is key, but selfishness is just disrespectful and downright shady.

By: Rob Mientjes

Rob Mientjes — Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:17:34 +0000

Didnt [sic] you when your were 16 years old?

I'm sixteen and I don't, to be honest. Please people, don't get a bad image of Dutch people. We too have the usual random arse showing up. And my English isn't that bad.

By: Sprons

Sprons — Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:18:17 +0000

He Kartooner,

After I RIPPET your top-menu and not your DESIGN, I did send you a mail! I guess you won’t reply that after the incident.

Amazing how many comments you have for this post.
If somebody died, hehe!
So now and then everybody rips something from the internet.
Didnt’ you when your we’re 16 years old?

Anyway, I don’t need your top menu anymore.
I think my site sprons.nl is ready to use!

You guys take care now, bye bye then!

By: Gary

Gary — Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:24:54 +0000

“like the design.. I wish you had some background imges that I could rip off.”

…and that describes your position perfectly John.

@Kartooner, good for you to explain yourself, but you didn’t need to. Similar to a debate I saw on Airbag a couple of months ago. It’s not worth pointing it out to some people.