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That video looks cool, but I think Doom 3 will be better.

For one, I didn’t like the orig­i­nal Half-Life so I’m biased. For two, who cares if you can push a table against a door or “lev­i­tate” objects with a gun… most peo­ple would rather see some­thing get mowed down like in Doom 3.. guts and gore over all that think­ing crap.

I might give it a shot, but really, I look for­ward to Doom 3.

by Dan Gomoski on May 16, 2003 at 9:58 am. Reply #

8 fps?

How’d you look that up? I know some­body with the same card, when it was leaked he got like 29–35 fps depend­ing on what was going on.

by Dan Gomoski on May 19, 2003 at 11:10 pm. Reply #

I for one am sure that com­par­ing two games that are intrin­si­caly dif­fer­ent from one one another, and I might add are some months yet from release is nei­ther wise or con­struc­tive, how­ever i can make some com­ments on graph­ics etc. As we are yet to see any out­door envi­ron­ments for Doom 3, and out­door envi­ron­ments really show us what the engine is capa­ble of in a real­is­tic sense, we cant really see what this doom 3 engine is really capa­ble of. Halflife 2 fors its part in the mat­ter seems very pretty in out­door scenes, but quite frankly does not push too much of a punch indoors, like the shots i have seen for doom 3. This would lead me to believe that the Doom 3 engine is far more able graph­i­cally– i mean– its got Car­mack work­ing on it, its got to be good.

I for one how­ever am look­ing for­ward to Halflife more A scarier game is one that takes an envi­ron­ment that we know, and is actu­ally fea­si­ble, and then alters it in such a way as to make it scary( believ­able but scary). A ran­dom base on Mars doesn’t do it for me im afraid– Im just wait­ing for the MODS, and games using the Doom 3 Engine

by BlackTACTXT on May 25, 2003 at 5:13 pm. Reply #

One thing I noticed right off the bat is that this new HalfLife 2 game looks incred­i­bly real­is­tic even when com­pared to DOOM 3. DOOM 3 and HalfLife 2 have dif­fer­ent engines. From what I saw in the video, HalfLife seems to run quite well and will prob­a­bly run well on PC’s with less than “ultra” fast setups.

DOOM 3 on the other hand has been giv­ing many peo­ple prob­lems as far as FPS, how­ever the twitchy leaked E3 demo is still an alpha ver­sion and prob­a­bly needs alot more tweak­ing before the code runs smoothly on most graphic cards.

In order to play either of these games at full capac­ity you will prob­a­bly need a really fast, up to date PC configuration.

I have layed out a brief sum­mary of what hard­ware will be nec­ces­sary in order for you to enjoy these newer games as they were meant to be enjoyed.

A 128MB or higher video­card that sup­ports DirectX 9

A newer Sound­card that sup­ports EAX, A3D and 5.1 surround

A 2.8GHZ or higher CPU, P4 will run best

Aleast 512MB of fast RAM at or above 400MHZ FSB

A 7200 RPM or higher Hard Drive, Ser­ial ATA or ATA 100+ w/8MB cache

A newer OS like Winows 2000 or XP

I know most of us don’t have the money to afford these plea­sures so I sug­gest you start throw­ing your extra cash in the piggy bank if you want to be able to enjoy these newer games with any amount of eye candy.

My rec­comen­da­tions for what types of hard ware to pur­chase in order to get up to date and stay up to date are as follows.

A GeForce FX Ultra 128MB card AGP 8X

A Radeon 9700 or 9800 Pro 128MB or 256MB card AGP 8X

A P4 3.0GHZ CPU with 533MHZ FSB or higher

1GB or more of the fastest RAM your moth­er­board can use

A 7200 RPM Ser­ial ATA or ATA 133 Hard Drive with an 8MB cache

A Sound­Blaster Audigy 2 Sound­card and a nice set of 5.1 sur­round speakers

A 19 Inch or larger monitor

Win­dows XP Pro­fes­sional — Great net­work­ing and com­pres­sion features

If you can build some­thing like this you should have more than enough power to run these newer games at max­i­mum capac­ity with­out any lag.

Hope this helps you all.

By the way. I am open­ing a new web­site http://www.maximummods.com.

It will be ded­i­cated to com­puter hard­ware and mod­i­fi­ca­tions as well as other cool stuff. I am look­ing for peo­ple to help with the web­site adding reviews and con­tent. Please con­tact me if you are inter­ested in help­ing out.

Thanks.

by www.maximummods.com on May 28, 2003 at 4:18 am. Reply #

I haven’t seen much tech­ni­cal infor­ma­tion on the new engine being used for HalfLife 2 so far. I do know from read­ing some inter­views with John Car­mack, that DOOM 3 relies heav­ily on hard­ware depen­dent fea­tures. DOOM 3 puts a con­sid­er­able strain on older model hard­ware mainly due to bot­tle­necks through­out var­i­ous sys­tems (FSB,AGP,RAM,CPU,GPU,.etc) So we can’t hon­estly say in par­tic­u­lar which game engine will be the most friendly, bet­ter yet yield the best per­for­mance results on the min­i­mum required configuration.

It remains to be seen which of the 2 new engines will gain a foothold, just like the Quake 3 (Radi­ant) engine has in many of the top sell­ing games out now. It will be inter­est­ing to see the use of more hard­ware depen­dent fea­tures in games.

The main ques­tion I would like to ask is…can you just imag­ine how f**king awe­some it’s going to be to play Coun­ter­Strike 2 with the new HalfLife engine?

I just hope they don’t let the hack­ers ruin the game again.

by www.maximummods.com on May 29, 2003 at 6:59 am. Reply #

It will always come to this:

Half-life: REALISM
Quake/doom: GheY­NESS on a super-duper x-ray engine

(You can see my bias)…
In terms of light­ing doom3 takes a more fun­da­men­tally cor­rect approach (true lights ONLY), in real­ity, the demo looked overly done, and car­toon­ish… as for mon­sters, well if GheY-MONSTERS is your thing (the type that throw glow-balls, and approach you head-on, get­ting stuck in the cor­ners), then woohoo for the doom guys… Tru­ely those geeks will con­cen­trate on the engine so bad, and then make these crappy games that have no point w/ghey, bright tex­tures and ghey mon­sters (has any­one beat Q2? It’s retarded: press but­ton, go there, press but­ton go there)

Valve teams takes FPS gam­ing from the approach of real­ism. So maybe it doesn’t use the freak­ing light­ing tech­nique of hell, but it surely looks real (it’s bet­ter than the doom demo, which is beyond gloomy, with the shad­ows overly pro­nounced)
So valve guys don’t con­cen­trate on fun­da­men­tal approach, but rather on the game feeling/looking real.

I’m tired of blaster FPS, they’re all the same, and they’re very tire­ing… I want games to be like books to read..

Bob

by Bob Johnson on May 29, 2003 at 7:59 pm. Reply #

Mommy! *drool*

I cant wait!

by icyliquid on June 1, 2003 at 4:57 pm. Reply #

though cs2 on hl2 engine is indeed wish­ful think­ing, say­ing that it is unnec­es­sary upgrade is like the bloop Bill Gates did in the 80’s when he said that 640k of RAM is all that peo­ple will ever need. More real­is­tic engine pro­vides for more real­is­tic killing (or bal­ance of fun vs. realism)

As for D3 vs HL2 — 2 sep­a­rate gen­res. Frankly I don’t have much faith in D3, it will likely become another bor­ing remake of the same genre (Q1 is still the king of that genre, though obvi­ously an aged game now). Blast­ing glow­ing blobs and overly shad­owed mon­sters can only be so much fun. The dark atmos­phere all of the demo takes place in got bor­ing in the demo already. And to be hon­est, sur­real space sta­tions and zom­bies have already been WAY overused in the 80’s hor­ror movies. Once you’re done with enjoy­ing blast­ing zom­bies away, all is left is find­ing the right but­ton to open the right door to pro­ceed to the next “load” screen.

Half-life, though took that genre and exe­cuted it in a more real way (I LOVED RUNNING WITH NO GUNS, AND FINDING A CROW-BAR, WHILE MONSTERS ARE CREEPING IN, later grab­bing a pis­tol for a guard), and now it’s mov­ing into a more real­is­tic envi­ron­ment (ques­tion­able as to how well that will tie in with orig­i­nal theme)… Peo­ple inter­ested in hl2, there’s another game that’s of sim­i­lar theme, check this out:
http://www.stalker-game.com
also soon to come out (that’s what they all say

by Bob Johnson on June 3, 2003 at 2:35 pm. Reply #

I for one am look­ing for­ward to BOTH HL2 AND DOOM3. I wont go and try to say which is bet­ter… They’re both dif­fer­ent types of games, and each would suit me bet­ter depend­ing on what kind of game i felt like play­ing at the time.

Ok most of us seem to love the game­play and inter­ac­tiv­ity that HL2 is going to pro­vide, but i’m sure that i’m not the only one that is also going to want an occa­sional in-your-face blood-and-guts vio­lent blast-fest every now and then.

Ok, so DOOM3 isn’t going to be a con­tin­ual blast-fest like its pre­de­ces­sors, instead rely­ing on a scaryer and more real­is­tic atmos­phere… BUT let’s not for­get all the DOOM3 MODS that are sure to fol­low… Undoubt­edly some­body is going to cre­ate a map or two designed as zombie/monster slaugherhouses.

Mmmmm, lis­ten­ing to your favourite rock/rap/dance song while mow­ing down a room full of mon­sters with a shiny new gattling-gun, or shred­ding a room full of zom­bies into bits by pump­ing each of them with shell after shell of 12-guage buck­shot… Or the utter gib-fest of unleash­ing a few rock­ets into the mid­dle of a few clus­ters of ene­mies… *mega drool*.

I say, i can hardly wait for both of these games. And lets not EVER for­get the pos­si­bil­i­ties that each of these games are going to pave the way for, in future releases/games yet to come.

Mmm­mmm… First-Person-Shooterage… *drool*

by Trigga' Happy! on June 4, 2003 at 12:16 pm. Reply #

What about S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Obliv­ion Lost? I think it’s way much bet­ter than HL2

by Helios on June 6, 2003 at 6:29 pm. Reply #

The thing I don’t get is how Gor­don: a sci­en­tist, knows how to han­dle weapons when all he is trained in is a PH.D and scored high in his math tests. Hmmm.…..

by Zabrak on July 1, 2003 at 11:50 pm. Reply #

You ques­tion his abil­i­ties to use firearms, yet you don’t men­tion any­thing about THE ALIENS. Gezz, don’t con­cen­trate on the minor details.

by Matt on July 3, 2003 at 1:59 pm. Reply #